"Pate says he sought funds from Machine for candidate"
The Crimson White
February 01, 1985
SGA President Ray Pate said Thursday he asked the Machine to fund Joey Scarborough’s presidential campaign.
Scarborough, who withdrew from the race Tuesday night, said in The Crimson White forum Sunday night he was offered Machine support to divide the independent vote if he would run for president. Scarborough declined to say who approached him.
The Machine, also known as Theta Nu Epsilon, is a political organization composed of select fraternities and sororities.
PATE said he talked to “Machine President Brock Jones” to get funding for Scarborough.
“Ray came to me and said Joey Scarborough wanted funding because he (Scarborough) didn’t want Joe (Barganier) to win,” Jones said. “I mentioned it to a couple of people, who thought it was the most ridiculous thing in the world.
“Why would we want to bring out more independents?” he said. “I talked to Chuck Kelley, and we agreed it would be stupid to give money to Joey.”
Kelley said he talked to several people about funding Scarborough’s campaign and questioned the logic of the idea.
“I QUESTIONED Ray about the logic behind it too,” Kelley said.
“Ray initiated this thing,” Jones said.
Jones said he told Pate the Machine wouldn’t give support to Scarborough. “We never considered giving money,” he said. “It would be like Republicans giving Democrats money.”
Pate said Jones was “leery” about it. “We discussed it among the executive committee, but it never generated the interest to vote,” Pate said.
SCARBOROUGH said he did not approach Pate for Machine support.
“The last day of signups, I was walking down the Ferguson stairs, and I ran into Ray,” Scarborough said. “I told him I was going to run for president.”
“He said, ‘Joey, I can get you help,’” Scarborough said. “So I went up to his office, and he offered me 15,000 flyers, endorsements, a full page ad in The CW and my campaign manager a senate seat.”
Scarborough said he told Pate he would think about it. He said he was “laughing for a couple of days” before he turned down Pate’s offer.
“I THOUGHT it was humorous the Machine would support a candidate so vehemently against what they stood for,” Scarborough said. “Of course, I didn’t take their filthy money.”
He said he could not believe Pate admitted offering him Machine support. “I can’t believe Ray hung himself, because I wasn’t going to expose him. I had my chance Sunday night (at The CW forum), but I saw it wouldn’t be worth hurting Ray to be elected president.
“I decided sending Ray down the river wouldn’t be worth winning SGA president,” he added. “And I tell you the truth: I would have won that election if I’d taken their support.”
PATE denied approaching Scarborough. He said Scarborough made an appointment with him and asked if the Machine would fund his campaign. He said he was only a “liaison” between Scarborough and the Machine.
Pate said he thought Scarborough approached him because “he knew that would be the best way to go to the Machine.”
“Joey set up an appointment with me and said he wanted to run for president,” Pate said. “He asked me for funding, and I told him I’d check with the Machine. I brought it up at a (Machine) meeting last semester, but no one was interested.”
However, Jeannie Rodenberry, SGA executive secretary, said she did not schedule an appointment for Pate with Scarborough.
“I NEVER set up an appointment with Joey Scarborough,” she said.
Pate also denied Scarborough’s campaign manager a senate seat.
Scarborough’s campaign manager, Larry Logsden, was later appointed off-campus senator by Pate when an off-campus senator was removed from the senate because he lived in a fraternity house on campus.
Logsden said Pate talked to him and said, “Oh, you’re going to be Joey’s campaign manager; that’s good.”
“IT WAS in the back of my mind that Ray was thinking of a trade-off,” Logsden said. “So I called him at the Delta Chi house and told him I didn’t want that.”
Pate said he told Logsden he would “appoint him anyway,” because he was qualified and highly recommended by SGA executive assistant Glenn Cantley.
Scarborough said he fired Logsden as his campaign manager because he took the seat.
Pate said Logsden also wanted the Machine endorsement for his upcoming off-campus senate race.
“I TOLD him it was too late for that (off-campus Machine) endorsement, but we could see if we could get him on an alternate position,” Pate said. “But he still worked for us, and we (the Machine) put out his literature, because Larry is behind George Harris.”
Logsden said the Machine helped distribute his literature as a favor to Cantley, who was Harris’ off-campus campaign manager.
“Glenn stuck his neck out for me,” Logsden said. “He said they’d help me out if I’d help them out.”
Logsden said he was not affiliated with the Machine. He said he was invited to eat dinner at the Kappa Delta sorority house, but was told he couldn’t go because he was an independent candidate.
“I GUESS Ray was mad because Joey dropped out,” Logsden said.
Logsden said, “a couple of people told him Pate approached Scarborough. He said he told Scarborough not to accept anything from Pate, but Scarborough had already turned Pate down.
The main reason Scarborough was running for President was because he “disliked Joe Barganier immensely,” Pate said. “He told me that, jokingly, on bid day.
“He just didn’t have the funds to run, and I told him I’d check with the Machine,” Pat added.
SCARBOROUGH said he was “running on issues only.” He said the main reason he withdrew from the race was so Barganier could win the presidency.
“Joey told me he wasn’t running to split the vote; he was running to win,” Barganier said. “He did say he had doubts about how I’d run things, but those are caused by my affiliation with the Ray Pate campaign, which I regret.
“I think Ray’s responsible for all of this, because he said a year ago he’d do anything in his power to keep Joe Barganier out of the SGA office,” Barganier said. He probably felt, if he could keep Joey Scarborough in the race, it would split the independent vote and get George Harris elected.”
“Ray is personally groomed by the Machine,” Barganier said. “That organization put Ray Pate where he is today. Therefore, Ray would do anything in his power to keep that secret fraternity.”
PATE said he regularly attends Machine meetings and “has missed only a couple.” He said he is an ex officio member of the Machine, as are all this year’s SGA executive officers.
In the Nov. 9, 1983 issue of The CW, Pate said he “might” attend Machine meetings, but would “attend the (Machine) meetings to help make some changes.” He said then the organization had a right to exist only if it became representative of all University students.
Pate said before he took office last year he would consider plans to overhaul the machine’s structure and outlook to make it more “conservative,” “cooperative” and “representative.”
Harris and Scarborough told him he had spoken with Pate.
“JOEY said, ‘It isn’t a reflection on you or your candidacy, George, but I’m running to win,’” Harris said.
“Ray can make any decision he wants, but I don’t know why he’d do that,” Harris said. “So many things have disappointed me during this campaign.
“This kind of crap causes us to lose credibility with the administration, community and state as a whole,” Harris said.
Scarborough said he considered Pate’s actions “a flagrant abuse of power and a dangerous mixture of politics and policy.”
“To tell you the truth, I would have won the election if I’d taken their support, but obviously it would have been against everything I believe in,” he said.